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   В каких случаях вы считаете оправданным употребление they в значении единственного числа, когда пол человека неизвестен? 

1. Everyone should drive their cars on the right side of the road.
2. A student is expected to turn in their homework.
3. A friend lent me their keys.
4. A LiveJournal friend sent me their condolences. 
5. Dr. Zhu has presented their results at a conference.
6. A paper reported on the discovery made by Frule Mozgol. Their findings are shocking. 
7. Anyone can scratch their noses.
8. When asked about the situation, the politician, who wished to remain anonymous, stated their party position rather than their personal opinion.
9. Hospital records revealed that the kidney was donated by a person named Prikle Tuffinen. Their contribution is sincerely appreciated.
10. Hospital records identified the donor as X. Their contribution is sincerely appreciated.
11. Hospital records indicated that the kidney was donated by an anonymous donor. Their contribution is sincerely appreciated.
12. A lawyer is expected to listen to their client.
13. The paper ran an editorial on the findings of Frule Mozgol. Their journalistic ethics was questionable. 

Date: 2011-04-03 02:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/_milashka/
in #13 I would say "its" as in "the paper's"
Also, for some reason I want to say "a lawyer should listen to his client", not "their"
Edited Date: 2011-04-03 02:28 am (UTC)

Date: 2011-04-03 02:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sereshka.livejournal.com
Does the combination "its journalistic ethics" sound right to you? It sounds awkward to me to apply the concept of ethics to a non-person, although the pronoun 'its' is certainly right for the 'paper'. I don't have a big problem with 'their' either, as the paper may be considered as a collective noun, meaning "its journalists".

12 and 2 seem the same to me, unless 2 refers to a single particular student, in which case it becomes unacceptable to me, despite the use of an indefinite article.

Date: 2011-04-03 02:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/_milashka/
I think it's because an indefinite article is used indicating that it's a singular student/lawyer. I mean, if they wanted to use "their", they should have also used the plural - students/lawyers

Date: 2011-04-03 03:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] erin-karsa.livejournal.com
It's interesting that you choose to use "they" to refer to the person who wrote the sentences.

Date: 2011-04-03 03:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/_milashka/
i actually mean "they" - the people who wrote it :)

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